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What is the Barrow Scale? How powerful could a civilization become by mastering DNA, and even fundamental particles, and could the universe already be filled with godlike civilizations hiding in plain sight?
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Something that also makes sense about this is it doesn’t require the same infinite energy infinite resource type things as traditional thoughts of what advanced civilizations require. Sure it might require more resources or energy than current stuff, but simply due to scale it doesn’t scale exponentially with advancedness, instead it likely gets slower the more advanced we get. And that just makes a lot more sense than eating up everything infinitely.
Do ants look up and say "look humans run!"? No. They run around in circles without any sense of what is attacking them. I expect it would go along the same lines.
Fermi Paradox answered?
Fermi Paradox answered?
While this video presents a fascinating philosophical look at the Barrow scale, it relies on several fundamental scientific inaccuracies and laws-of-physics violations to make its narrative work: first, claiming that CRISPR was discovered "about 10 years ago" is historically incorrect, as the CRISPR sequences themselves were discovered in 1987 by Yoshizumi Ishino and even their adaptation into a programmable gene-editing tool by Doudna and Charpentier occurred back in 2012; second, stating that DNA is "the densest information-storage system on Earth" is only true for natural biological systems, since physicists have already engineered atomic-scale memories—such as single-atom chlorine-vacancy hard drives and single-molecule magnets—that store data at densities orders of magnitude higher than DNA; third, the central premise that moving down the Barrow scale eliminates the need for Kardashev-scale energy and macro-structures like Dyson spheres completely ignores quantum mechanics and thermodynamics, because probing and manipulating smaller scales requires inversely proportional, monumental amounts of energy (which is why probing elementary particles requires a 27-kilometer collider, and manipulating the Planck or "Omega-minus" scale would require a particle accelerator the size of the Milky Way); and finally, suggesting that civilizations could build fist-sized datacenters or compute inside atomic nuclei at "sextillions of operations per second" without expanding outwards violates both Landauer's principle and thermodynamic heat-dissipation limits, as packing that much computation into a tiny volume on a single planet would instantly vaporize the device into plasma and boil the planet's biosphere from the waste heat alone.
9:55 this is exactly why Ai solving the millennium problem is huge. It no longer is a question of if, rather it now is “how much will it cost”. Humans are amazing at making things more efficient, the hard part is to get it to work
In type 4 take over the entire group of galaxy
"oh humans when they will learn that size does not matter and if something is important it does not mean is tiny! diminute! like the size of a marble or a jewel" – frank "the dog" MIB 1997
Looking at humanity, I'd guess any somewhat similar civilization would likely evolve in both directions, as we have.
The Kardashian Scale.
2:27 100x smaller is -99x as big as.
verity
Wasn't this a Rick and Morty episode?
Bruh rick and morty might be right lmao
This might be the answer to the Fermi paradox of „where is everybody?“
Meanwhile in America: a "flying" car that drills oil.
Very cool video. Time to play Stellaris now 😅
ALL TOMORROWS BRO
this just science
At 9:04, idk man,at this point we are playing God ,let's not play with this his creations that he made after all. We shouldn't have this kind of power,even if for good,believe me
It may be closer than we think, if rsi agi becomes a reality
This entire concept is very “three body problem”
Unfolding a proton into 2 dimensions in order to program it to do whatever you’d like remotely (and that was only the beginning).
No matter if they delve INWARD or OUTWARD, any civilization would need to protect itself from extinction-level events from BOTH directions. From cascading microscopic novas, to solar novas and asteroids.
Praying this happens to us
in the beginning…
I used to click on these thumbnails until they added this fucking red arrow
This video had such an hitchhikers guide to the galaxy vibe to it ❤
pov: kursgesagt daydreaming
The way I look at it. Too meet our energy needs and to also accommodate our insatiable curiosity wouldn’t it make sense to become energy
Hmmmm
11:46 NOW I HAVE YOU ATTENTION! ♪ / TOGETHER WE'RE UNLOCKING NEW DIMENSIONS! ♫
I think this calls up ethical questions as much as expanding outwards. The types of technologies humans develop is a reflection of humans themsleves. As much as manipulating matter sounds really cool and can play an important role in adapting to climate change, seeing ourselves as "god-like" can still keep that entitlement and hunger that caused the climate crisis (and global inequality) in the first place.
It's like the aliens from three body problem that destroy and create pocket dimensions to kill off other civilizations and hide their own. Maybe the key to longevity of our species isn't expansion and Dyson sphere's but doing everything we can to not draw attention to ourselves
2 minute advert hol-eee for the love of life go show that to the trillion dollar oligarch groups poisoning mine and my children's world Please, why is it in a YOUTUBE VIDEO.
🌏🌐⛓️ own nothing, be happy. Tyranny under the guise of safety, inclusivity and convenience. 1984 x black mirror. UBI, blockchain, Al, track, trace and database, highly surveilled, highly regulated, less rights, less freedom, less choice, diminished human experience and art and culture, digital “utopia”.
0:01:09 you lost me at this point. There's only so much anti human eco warrior clichés I can stomach – especially given most are bunk…
maybe someday we will learn how to create a government that doesn't destroy us. hehe
<3
Anthropology is really not your subject lmao
Depending on time of development, there might be civilizations star hopping already. (I say hop, the hop might take a year)
But that's a dangerous business.
We won't be able to for quite some time
0:02 verity 🥹✌️🥀
cade a dublagem bro?
okay
I run Coach Stick (stick figure health & fitness).❤
L'Atome Est Dieu.
4:30 I see human-like animals. Maybe even real-life Pokemon
Finally, we all agree that dyson sphere is stupid.