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00:00 Intro
01:30 Risks Of YouTube Medicine / Mental Health Stigma
27:25 Mindfulness and Enlightenment
32:30 Ayurvedic Medical Tests
54:45 The Weaknesses Of Ayurveda
01:11:10 Why Ayurveda Is So Popular
01:21:26 Why I Don’t Like Ayurveda
1:39:00 The Advantage of Ayurveda / Placebos
1:56:32 How Much Time Matters
2:07:26 How Do We Know “Thought” Exists?
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Super important convo 🙏 Thanks for having us on 💚
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As someone studying ayurveda there is no concept for tasting urinne for that
Yes ayurvedya uses
(Panchvidha pariksha)[5 methods for examination of patient]
It includes use of sense organs to examine
sabda (sounds)
sparsha (touch)
rupa(vision)
rasa (taste)
gandha (smell)
but
Text in ayurveda specifically metioned that use of tounge for examination is not approved.
What they mean is to ask patient about how his mouth taste feels ( similiar to when you have fever you feel tastless and dint want to eat ) and if patient have hyperglycemia ofcourse he can feel sweetness . ( i may be wrong cuz i m stiill in my 2 years in ayurveda and 3 years are still left ) but i just wanted to point out that!
Soo interesting! I just finished the whole conversation and feel like I should listen to it a few more times. I work as an interfaith chaplain in a residential psychiatric/intellectual disability setting. This tension between evidence-based medicine and meaning-making is something I've always been very interested in.
Dr. K seems really smart and is making many good points in an eloquent way. This notion of "western" medicine adopting sections of ayurvedic and other traditional/alternative medicine practices, and thereby taking them out of their original context, both as cultural appropriation and also of throwing out the baby with the bath water, really resonated.
I wonder if part of what he is describing could be understood as a tension between a phenomenological approach and a more functional or reductionistic one: not just asking whether something works, but also asking what an experience or practice means within the worldview and context in which it exists.
And while Dr K said it isn't about giving credit where credit is due, I think in part it is. Because I think there is a stigma on complementary and alternative medicine, as well as on spiritual and religious practices more broadly. And I agree with both Dr. Mike and Dr. K that you don't want health care to be fully unregulated, because you will never know who and what you can trust. This is where research and an evidence-based approach can be valuable.
But at the same time, there are things being discarded too easily because they don't fit a modern secular worldview and people can't understand them through this lens. It reminded me of Talal Asad's work on the 'secular body', which I think offers an interesting perspective on this topic.
I really like how dr. K navigates this topic and seems to act like a bridge-builder between different worldviews, rather than simply arguing for one versus the other.
Ok this comment got unintentionally long ;). I'll stop talking now. But keep up the good work, both of you!
"Also you have to remember I'm not not an allopathic physician" 😂😂😂
Has Dr. K mentioned Patanjali's yoga sutras? It certainly helps that it's been approached with a scientific attitude. Osho really does well to break it down in understandable ways
"Man I wish Doctor K. Would touch my toes again" 😂
I'm sorry but both the doctors have half ass knowledge about literally everything. Dr. K didn't even try to touch half of the relevant points that actually could've helped in understanding the whys that Dr. Mike had. That's just proves even working in the field of science you cant even do little research out of your own box. Also Dr. Mike to answer your question I have a different perspective when you said "let's just scarp ayurveda" oh boy that just gave me trauma. Like the history just repeats itself. The colonisers didn't let Indian "art of medicine" grow just because they had their own agenda by bringing in the western medicines. And you are telling us that its a fraud?! Damn didn't expect this blind perspective you have. Its not about your validation but it just hurts to see people just dismiss others excellence. And believe me when I say our peopele lived just fine before we were introduced to "western art of medicine" I'm sorry I always felt that atleast y'all have an open perspective towards science but I guess I was wrong. If I had the money I would've myself sponsered your trip to india especially to help you learn more about our history and science. I swear dismissing something which you dont believe in is easy but trying to learn something new that's goes against your belief is difficult 🤷🏻♀️
i mean, western doctors pretty much use "vibes" when they extrapolate RCT on a person. dr. k advocates there should be improvements on that. really insightful talk. i think machine learning should be integrated into the system
1:20:49 the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence
[Osho] views Ayurveda as an organic, holistic system of life, contrasting it sharply with modern medical science (allopathy), which he critiques as a mechanical and suppressive approach to human health. While he acknowledges the technological triumphs of modern medicine, he believes its fundamental philosophy is deeply flawed.
Osho differentiates the two systems across several core dimensions:
1. Organic Unity vs. Mechanical Isolation
* Modern Medicine: Osho states that Western medical science treats human beings as a collection of separate parts rather than a whole. He calls this a "mechanical view of man". If a part is broken or sick, modern medicine treats that isolated part like a mechanic fixing a machine.
* Ayurveda: In contrast, Ayurveda views the human being as an organic unity inseparable from nature. Osho emphasizes that a sick part is merely a symptom that the entire organism is in difficulty. Health, in the Ayurvedic sense, means being completely "at ease with nature"
*2. Expression vs. Suppression of Disease
* Modern Medicine (Allopathy): Osho heavily critiques allopathy for being a system of suppression. He traces this philosophical baseline back to traditional Western conditioning, arguing that when you use allopathy to instantly suppress a symptom, the underlying illness simply forces its way out through another weak point in the body. According to Osho, this forces patients into a never-ending cycle of moving from one illness to another.
* Ayurveda: Developed alongside Patanjali’s Yoga system, Ayurveda aims to restore total internal harmony. Osho notes that when energy falls back into a balanced circle, future illnesses disappear along with present ones because the root ecosystem of the body is healed.
3. Subjective Communication vs. Objective Lab Science
* Modern Medicine: Modern medicine relies strictly on objective data, treating every human body as an identical biological object.
* Ayurveda: Osho shares a traditional perspective on how ancient Ayurvedic sages discovered the properties of millions of healing herbs. He explains that they did not use refined modern laboratories, but rather the universal language of feeling. By listening through the heart and being deeply attuned to nature, the sages allowed existence to reveal its own medicinal secrets.
4. Evolution of Human Sickness
Osho challenges the notion that ancient Ayurvedic texts are incomplete because they do not mention certain modern illnesses. He asserts that Ayurveda was a perfect science for its time, but humanity has since "invented" entirely new diseases due to modern stress, worry, and affluent lifestyles. For example, he classifies conditions like cancer as deeply rooted in psychic wounds and modern anxiety, which cannot be cured purely from the physical, mechanical approach of modern medicine.
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You’ve got to talk to Dr David Duarte. Period
Dr. K really tickled Dr. Mike's toes 🤣🤣🤣🤣 1:41
1:12:01 – could be colonialism and imposition of western thought and stifling of eastern sciences?
The penicillin example is not really correct. What happened with microbial theory is that after using penicillin we discovered a real tangible mechanism on how resistance emerges. In TaiChi case, if "spirituality" is real it will emerge from TaiChi. Dr. K is saying that this somehow takes away from spirituality, but in reality it doesn't. Nobody cared about "microbiome theory" when they discovered penicillin rightfully. Only once we learned a lot more it emerged as something valuable.
Maybe the best intellectual debate I've seen on YouTube.
It’s quackery
Coming from the Western side, I have never heard of Ayurveda explaining things as deeply and verifiably as allopathic medicine.
Yes there are explanations given, of why a treatment should work, but those are more often spiritual than biological. And sometimes it will work, and sometimes not, with nobody knowing with certainty why or when it does or doesn't work.
The nice thing about allopathic medicine being that if you get the correct diagnosis and we know what to do from previous cases and tests (medicine, exercise, supplements, whatever), we know how your body will react and why, most of the time. We know what the side effects can be, and how to alleviate them if we can.
I guess what Dr.K is saying is true that Ayurveda could be considered a branch of modern medicine, on the same level as allopathic, but it would need to explain itself to the rest of the world, in terms they can understand, and prove its reliability, beyond people who think it will work making it work. And that would take a lot of testing, and trials, and questioning of established "wisdom".
Whereas I perceive (and have to say, agree, even if he put it in a way I don't like) Dr Mike's point to be that Allopathic medicine knows how to integrate knowledge from other traditions (through colonising processes, but it knows how), is reliable and understandable by people the world over (as seen by the fact there are hospitals using it everywhere), and is visibly evolving and getting better all the time.
And yes, parasites (fake gurus, the pharmaceutical industry, and supplements industry) will blackmail us with our health no matter what.
Another reason I feel like there hasn't been as much development is a long history of colonization, loss of centuries of research and evidence that used to exist. Not saying ayurveda is perfect but that is another aspect of the differential
ممکن است مانع یادآوری کلمات شوند یا کلماتی را با صدای ضعیف به شما گوشزد کنند و فقط اجازه به زبان آوردن آن کلمه را به شما دهند مثلاً وقتی میخواهید به کسی فحش دهید به دنبال کلمه ای باشید و آنها مانع کلمات دلخواه شما شوند و کلمه فحشی را به شما القا کنند که فقط آن کلمه را بیابید و چون قابلیت گفتن چیزی را دارید این فرصت به دست آوردن تکلم موجب شود تا شما با همان کلمه فحش خود را بگویید و وضعیت را بد کنید فراموشی آلزایمر با همین کارها به صورت متوالی به همین شکل بر روی شما اعمال میشود تداخل در تصمیمات تاخیر در انجام کاری با مانع یآوری به موقع برهم زدن تعادل با تداخل در مغز چشمها و گوشها
گروهی از مردم هستند که همیشه ما را می پائند و صدای زبان ما هنگام فکر کردن را میشنوند از طریق میکروفون های کوچک و میتوانند در گوش ما حرف بزنند یا صداهایی را ایجاد کنند و تأثیر مستقیم در زندگی ما دارند و میتوانند ما را هنگام ارتکاب جرم یا گناه آزار دهند یا دچار وضعیتی با نام بیماری کنند و یا دچار یک سانحه کنترل شده یا از پیش تعیین شده کنند بعضی از بیماریها برای مجازات هستند و برای کشتن انسانها به صورت تدریجی طراحی یا علائم آنرا در بدن ایجاد و باعث مرگ شوند دخالت در فکر و اندیشه تأثیر در پمپاژ قلب با مسدود کردن رگ های آن تأثیر در تنفس با مسدود کردن نایژه های ریه از طریق پلاک ها و مرگ با ایست قلبی و عدم تنفس و خفگی
Indian dude said indians understand microbiology because they clean their ass with left hand and eat with right hand
Dude that's common sense not microbiology
A lot of research on meditation and mindfulness is flawed anyway because those practices are set within a substantial cultural context regarding death, the self, the body etc. You can't just take a group of people and say 'do this mindfulness' and reliably reproduce the inner experience of an authentic practioner within a meditation lineage
To anyone who was interested in the last bit of the video where they discuss about consciousness. Dr. K was talking about the eastern philosophy of "Advaita vedanta" try reading about it, it is very well debated school of thought and its ok if you feel its BS but its super interesting. Might change your entire life
I am from India and the guiding principle in Ayurvedic Medicine is to enable the body's capability to heal the disease not heal the disease directly. Yes we need more common repositories and comparison data. As per my reading and understanding Ayurveda works for many common illnesses but does not work for genetic and some serious viral disorders. We basically need modern level research on Ayurveda. Problem is what is being followed was as per texts a few thousand years old. We need it to have modern research and understanding incorporated. Good thing about Ayurveda is that there are no side effects of the medicine itself as it's just herbs. BTW Marijuana plant is the most important herb in Ayurvedic texts.
TL; DR : Take medication as per the ailment identified. E.g. common cold, constipation, diarrhea may take Ayurvedic medicine. Have a fracture, severe bout of illness go to the Allopathic dr.