We are being carefully conditioned | J. Krishnamurti



From the third public discussion in Saanen, 1977. Watch the full video at

We are being carefully conditioned | J. Krishnamurti

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6 Comments

  1. I have never really conformed. I was always more interested in who I was and why I was here, and neither my parents nor school could tell me what I wanted to know. Discovering K early on in life gave me a template of enquiry that continues to point to a way of living, and being that knows thst it will never find a finite answer. It is in a state of enquiry that an opening to the present occurs.

  2. We don't get educated, we get indoctrinated, schooled for the work herd and cannon fodder. Told what to think, not taught what thinking is and how to check it. IQ tests do not capture the full scope of fundamental intelligence, our ability to reason. Rather than measuring overall intellect, they focus on a very narrow band of cognitive skills, completely missing what makes human reasoning dynamic. Intelligence is the broad mental capacity to learn from experience, understand complex concepts, reason, plan, and adapt to new situations.

    Fundamentally philosophy is the quest to understand reality, knowledge, and existence. The discipline demands that we question our own assumptions and seek what is genuinely true. It uses critical thinking to explore the why behind concepts like morality, consciousness, and reason. At the most fundamental level philosophy is the search for truth.

    An autodidact is a person who teaches themselves about a subject or skill without the guidance of formal instructors or enrollment in an educational institution. Enlightened authenticity is achieved through being intelligent, the basis for rational critical thinking. We must become autodidacts in a world very little reasoning is happening. The only barriers to truth are believing you already have it, or believing it’s unobtainable.

    Intelligent is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. Knowledge, knowing, know, the root of this is to come to an understanding that something, or some things, are factually correct truth. We don't acquire this with belief/disbelief nonsensical nutter wands. That would be scraping thousands of years of philosophy that has developed logic and the scientific method in the fundamental search for truth. It's how we're going to classify something as a belief, hypothesis, theory, or fact. It's the basis for evidence in a court of law. We can apply logic and the scientific method as a screening process for screening the matrix of lies and deception. This has to be learned and practiced to become efficiently skilled.

    Delusional casualties of psychological warfare are lost and stuck in a matrix of lies and deception, lacking the ability to see through the veil of bullshit belief systems of control, ists, isms, ions and such of pseudoscience, religions, cultism, propaganda, and historical lies. Just the very basics, what are the three basic laws of logic, four goals, and three major steps steps of the scientific method? What is a belief, hypothesis, theory, and a fact? Delusional sheeple can't readily answer these questions. There's more laws of logic, more steps of the scientific method, and more critical thinking tools.

    There is a proper use for belief/disbelief, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Belief/disbelief has great power, just look at something like Placebo and Nocebo effects. I believe that I can beat a hereditary disorder with extreme health, that's the proper use of belief. Belief/disbelief based deductions are philosophical suicide just to begin with. Belief/disbelief based deductions end with belief/disbelief based organizations in the control system taking advantage. In that sense, belief/disbelief is psychological pathogen mind control, a destroyer of logic, knowledge, and freedom.

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