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Topic: The Early Church
Guest: Joe Heschmeyer

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Topic: The Early Church
Guest: Joe Heschmeyer

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0:00 – Intro
2:41 – Earliest Christian Document Outside the Bible?
10:55 – Did Early Church Fathers Teach Sola Scriptura?
14:34 – Catholic Views on the Death Penalty and Non Resistance in Genesis 9;6
30:07 – Early Church Views on Praying to Saints
41:51 – Church Fathers Reading for New Catholics
47:36 – Is the Modern ‘Way International’ Related to the Early Church’s ‘The Way’?
1:04:20 – How Do Primitive Christians Justify Replacing 1st Century Holy Days with Pagan Celebrations?
1:28:25 – How Does the Catholic Church Fulfill Ephesians 4;11 Without Apostles?
1:39:37 – Where Did Apostles Peter and John Spread Christianity?
1:44:37 – Early Church Writings on Mary?

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13 Comments

  1. How is it tht u make up this lie tht the early church was cath. No such thing. Just like all Cath theologians teach tht born again is baptism. U don't seem to know what Jesus said n what Jesus meant. Thts why all caths will not make it to heaven

  2. Joe defends the current papacy. Joe cannot be trusted. He also handwaves the lgbt infestation among priests and bishops. He cares more about toe-ing the line because he knows the Freemasons ànd other subversive groups in ànd around the church will come after him ànd he’ll be shut down. Go ahead and laugh it off and when you are done, start doing some critical thinking. Everyone can see Leo ànd Francis have ànd were damaging to the Catholic Church. So why go around spouting shameful popery? The last GOOD Pope was Pius XII ànd John Paul the first was murdered. LOOK it up.

  3. 6:36 When Judas the Betrayer's office was given to another, the replacement Apostle had immediate equal status to the others. His status did not begin only after all the other Apostles died. Therefore, it logically follows that Peter's office being filled upon his death would have the same immediate status as well. .

  4. Why do cult leaders gain so much power and control? When a cult leader faces a massive failure or setback, deeply committed followers often refuse to abandon their beliefs. Instead, they reinterpret the failure as a hidden victory, a spiritual test, or the fault of external enemies to protect the leader’s narrative of infallibility. Absolute devotion to a leader can alter a follower's perception of reality through a psychological mechanism known as cognitive dissonance reduction. Throughout history, this phenomenon has allowed various leaders to maintain absolute control and mobilize their followers to extreme actions! History is littered with them…Jesus, Muhammad, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, Shoko, Charles Manson, Joseph Di Mambro & Luc Jouret, Roch Thériault, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, The Kim Dynasty, Saparmurat Niyazov, Nicolae Ceaușescu, Ron L. Hubbard, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, and The Saudi Royal Family to name a very few. Ashli Babbitt who was in the Trump cult died for a lie on January 6th, Hundred of thousands in the Anti-vaccine cult died from Covid!

    And one of the push backs I get for the cult members of Jesus was they wouldn’t have died for a lie. While the argument of 'dying for a lie' sounds compelling on the surface, it falls apart under historical scrutiny because it assumes facts we simply do not possess. To see why this line of reasoning is flawed, we have to ask the critical questions! Who exactly are 'they'? Beyond legendary traditions compiled centuries later, we have virtually no reliable historical records detailing the lives, individual beliefs, or precise manners of death for the vast majority of the twelve disciples. What did they actually claim to see? We do not have diaries, letters, or firsthand statements from the disciples. We have anonymous Gospels written decades later by authors who were not eyewitnesses, recording stories that had been passed down through oral tradition. Did any of them leave the faith? We cannot know, because history only preserves the stories of the factions that survived and won. Any disciple who doubted, walked away, or changed their mind would have been scrubbed from the record or labeled a heretic by the early Church. Is dying for a belief proof of its physical truth? History is filled with sincere people who willingly died for a cause. Sincerity does not equal historical accuracy. People regularly die for ideas they sincerely believe to be true, even if those ideas are based on misinterpretations, theological convictions, or shared spiritual experiences. We don't need rhetoric!! We need EVIDENCE. Relying on a chain of unverified, centuries-old stories in a book to prove a physical resurrection takes for granted the very things that require proof!

  5. There are about 75 books that are not in the bible. Some of them are in the Lost Books of the Bible and the Forbidden Books of Eden. None of them, however, are interesting to read per my Protestant friends. I have them in physical and digital forms.

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