I love etymology. It's like how I wouldn't use the word yeet, for years because I didn't understand it. And then someone dug the original video out of the depths of their phone to show me. So I would understand yeet, and could use it in conversation. Neurodivergance is wild some days.
In Portuguese “carro” is car and “autocarro” is bus. But only in Europe; in other portuguese speaking countries “bus” has other local variants (ônibus, machimbombo, microlete, etc.)
In Swedish, the word "kaross", also known as "vagnhölje" (carriage cover? according to google translate), is the outer shell (body) of the car. I can see the similarity to karros/carrum as they are really a body or shell that you stand in.
It is believed that the same Proto-Indo-European root (*ḱr̥sós) that car ultimately comes from is the same root which the word horse comes from. That root literally means "runner" and comes from the PIE root meaning "to run." It is not known for sure if Proto-Germanic took the word that later became horse from the same origin, but it is probably the most likely origin for the word.
The Horseless Age made this quip about a particularly bad car in the 1890s "…the Pennington car, which is not a car, since it does not carry, but has to be carried…"
Ka? Anyway, English might get car from Common Gmc rather than Medieval French, because (According to Ammianus, and some Byzantine manuals), the Romans got carrago from Gothic, so either Common Gmc got karros from Celtic, or some old Gmc tongues got carrus from Latin.
Like most kids in Ireland, I had to learn Irish at school. There were two words for car: carr, which means car, and gluastán, which means "motor". However, my Irish teacher would tell me off for using carr, I think because he assumed it came from English, and insisted on using gluastán. It turns out carr is more correct, and the English took it from us (well, the celts, anyway). Also, the reason car ended up in latin/French/English in the first place is because the Romans weren't that keen on horses in the first place, so outsourced a lot of their cavalry to the celts, leading to a lot of celtic horse terminology getting absorbed into Latin (and the languages it turned into).
Calling it “stupid” is pretty silly; this stuff is typical for language contact and really for word evolution in general. A genuinely stupid etymology to me is, like, a word that only exists because of a misspelling or a typographic error, or a word coined in an “unnatural” way for bad ideological reasons. But that's still fascinating!
Well we also took a French word cabriolet. Thanks for this mansplaining the word. It was a hoot! Definitely LOL! But I’m seeing a pattern developing. When it comes to the evolution of words and language. Everything is going along in a calm and accepted manner. Well up until you insert the rebels of colonialism. The rowdy ruckus attitude of the rebels were into putting their stain into the evolution of the “American tongue”. Kind of reminds me of what the current guy in the Oval Office if doing in renaming the Gulf of Mexico, and Lake Ontario. He’s kind of a dickt. But if your going to rename the GoM. I’d prefer. The gulf of extinct species!
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Thank you for this. 😂
The conclusion is beautiful
And also cognate to "Karren" in German, which can before to a cart. The later "Karre" is slang referring to an "Auto".
Someone's reading 14th Century poetry and randomly comes across the poet riding in a car
That's almost a perfect "Who's on first" routine.
I love etymology. It's like how I wouldn't use the word yeet, for years because I didn't understand it. And then someone dug the original video out of the depths of their phone to show me. So I would understand yeet, and could use it in conversation. Neurodivergance is wild some days.
Or just short for motorcar.
In Portuguese “carro” is car and “autocarro” is bus. But only in Europe; in other portuguese speaking countries “bus” has other local variants (ônibus, machimbombo, microlete, etc.)
Welsh and Breton…but don’t forget their tween cousin, Kernewek. Cornish for car is karr, plural kerri.
Hmm, yes, this floor is made of floor.
There is also quadriga that means something with 4 wheels
Auto car is not automatic car, it is automobile car. Matic vs mobile
There is a company in the US that makes very big extreme duty trucks . Its name is Autocar.
Car means car.
A view more clear statements like that and you qualify for the presidency. 😂
So, when does chariot enter the picture, and what's its etymology?
Car = Automatic Self-Powered Trackless Train Car
Cargo is not related to the word “car,” although the pronunciation of cargo expresses the hope of each car owner.
In French, « autocar » means a coach (as in a large bus)
In Swedish, the word "kaross", also known as "vagnhölje" (carriage cover? according to google translate), is the outer shell (body) of the car. I can see the similarity to karros/carrum as they are really a body or shell that you stand in.
This needs to be a TedTalk!
ka mins ka
I'm calling this video A LONG since it's not a short 30 second clip 😁🤣😏
It is believed that the same Proto-Indo-European root (*ḱr̥sós) that car ultimately comes from is the same root which the word horse comes from. That root literally means "runner" and comes from the PIE root meaning "to run." It is not known for sure if Proto-Germanic took the word that later became horse from the same origin, but it is probably the most likely origin for the word.
in European Portuguese, they decided to use the term autocarro… for bus.
Cor!
German has "Karren" for cart or "Schubkarre" for wheelbarrow (literally "push cart").
I'd say automobile is not for automatic car but rather for autonomous car
and carpet comes from a car you can pet 😺
So car came from Carriage and carriage came from "to carry"
Karros – carrum (meaning carriage )- carre – car
Karros – carricare – cariage – carriage
So carriage means to carry
And car means carriage
But carriage doesn't mean carriage
Make that make sense
Funny, cars in portuguese is carros.
The Horseless Age made this quip about a particularly bad car in the 1890s "…the Pennington car, which is not a car, since it does not carry, but has to be carried…"
I always thought 'car' was short for horseless carriage.
The other thing, is definitely a train carriage.
That old "Karros" sounds just like how we northern mexicans call the plural of "Car".
But what about voiture
Ka?
Anyway, English might get car from Common Gmc rather than Medieval French, because (According to Ammianus, and some Byzantine manuals), the Romans got carrago from Gothic, so either Common Gmc got karros from Celtic, or some old Gmc tongues got carrus from Latin.
And now I'm wondering about the different pronunciations of garage. The one that rhymes with carriage and the other that rhymes with barrage.
Not the back of my head chiming in with "Wait, how does kuruma (車) fit into this?" T_T
"And Phoebus' car will shine from far, to make and mar the foolish fates"
I was less confused a minute ago.
Me frantically writing down "car = car"
Horseless carriage?
carriage is in fact the process, a car is an instrument.
This whole short sounds doubly weird if you're a fully-rhotic English speaker.
Like most kids in Ireland, I had to learn Irish at school. There were two words for car: carr, which means car, and gluastán, which means "motor". However, my Irish teacher would tell me off for using carr, I think because he assumed it came from English, and insisted on using gluastán. It turns out carr is more correct, and the English took it from us (well, the celts, anyway). Also, the reason car ended up in latin/French/English in the first place is because the Romans weren't that keen on horses in the first place, so outsourced a lot of their cavalry to the celts, leading to a lot of celtic horse terminology getting absorbed into Latin (and the languages it turned into).
Why do we say "wagon wheel" but never "carriage wheel" or "Chariot wheel"
Also bicycles are two tired to go anywhere and cars are exhausted.
Calling it “stupid” is pretty silly; this stuff is typical for language contact and really for word evolution in general. A genuinely stupid etymology to me is, like, a word that only exists because of a misspelling or a typographic error, or a word coined in an “unnatural” way for bad ideological reasons. But that's still fascinating!
Well we also took a French word cabriolet. Thanks for this mansplaining the word. It was a hoot! Definitely LOL! But I’m seeing a pattern developing. When it comes to the evolution of words and language. Everything is going along in a calm and accepted manner. Well up until you insert the rebels of colonialism. The rowdy ruckus attitude of the rebels were into putting their stain into the evolution of the “American tongue”. Kind of reminds me of what the current guy in the Oval Office if doing in renaming the Gulf of Mexico, and Lake Ontario. He’s kind of a dickt. But if your going to rename the GoM. I’d prefer. The gulf of extinct species!
When I want to convey my hybrid vehicle across the United States by rail, I use the automatic automatic car car
car means car and car means car